Topic #1 "We are all on this panel because we have an interest in how the human race is going to respond to the challenges of the climate crisis, and because we all believe that the use of games, or gamification, or playful and gameful design in general have a meaningful part to play in that response. Many people might say that games and ‘fun’ are trivial matters. What is about games and play that you believe makes them a useful way to approach these serious issues?"